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Whats Next after K1300s?

Postby JBinSD on Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:45 pm

I wandered into my local SD BMW dealer last week, looking at some K1300s bikes, and in conversing with the CSA, he informed me '11 is the last year of the K1300's, but couldn't say with what it was being replaced. . .Anyone know? and how will it affect reseale values on the K12's and K13s? I'm itching to buy one of these used, so if it benefits me to wait out this summer for a fall depression of prices, I may have to suffer a summer without a K.

Anyone know whats in store?
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Re: Whats Next after K1300s?

Postby ato1300s on Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:20 pm

That is very good advice. I second that.
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Re: Whats Next after K1300s?

Postby thebigblue on Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:29 pm

Are their any proof that the arrival of the K13 affected prices on K12 for instance :?:
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Re: Whats Next after K1300s?

Postby badger on Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:34 pm

SHIVA wrote:you shouldn't always trust the dealers for information about future products. they are routinely wrong. buy a K1300S and have fun this year and simply ignore your dealer. :)


Extremely good advice. I had it on good reputation that the K1400 would be 2012, but who can you trust.... (certainly not your average dealer; unless they are reading this forum!!) :D
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Re: Whats Next after K1300s?

Postby msteam on Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:08 pm

I seriously doubt that the K1300S will be altered to a new displacement that soon but that is only based on what I feel would be a bad rate of return for BMW in investing in new tooling only 3 years after inception. The previous K ran from 2005 to 2010
My old K1200S is still at the dealers for sale at $7500 with 30,000 miles. That bike originally was $18400. The 1300S is in my opinion a considerable improvement over the 1200S. The real benefit to buying new for me has been warranty support and BMW Motorrad road side assistance. I travel about 7000 miles or more a year on my bike and have no worries about break downs. while away on a cross country trips last year I had a tire failure 2000 miles from home and was towed at no charge to the nearest dealer 150 miles away (Tampa Fla) where I was supplied with new tires immediately. All because of BMW Motor Rad support. Continental Tire sent me a new tire just for goodwill when I called them. All my experience has been positive and above all other makers support. This support lasts for 3 years at no additional charge.
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Re: Whats Next after K1300s?

Postby JHB1984 on Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:04 pm

my bet is on a K1600S and/or R ... same motor as the K1600GT/L but with bi-turbo and compressor and chasis+body panels all carbon fiber.

but caution ... it could get a bit pricier then the K13 :roll: :wink:

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Re: Whats Next after K1300s?

Postby Bernardo on Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:01 pm

same motor as the K1600GT/L but with bi-turbo and compressor


What model?, B52 ? :lol:
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Re: Whats Next after K1300s?

Postby JBinSD on Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:04 pm

Yeah, I fully understand the argument of "do it now", don't wait too long, etc. Bike prices tend to go up a bit in spring when it warms up and people want to get out on the road again, but I'm in San Diego, where its rideable all year, and bikes seem to go for a premium. And yes, I did notice the values of the 12's go down when the 13's came out, but not significantly; bmw has freakishly good resale value unless there's just a bad year model dragging it down.
I personally like the '08 tricolor just as much as the '09 LOM, and there seems to be about a 2.5k price differential between an '08 and '09.
I'll keep hunting on Craigs List and Cycletrader, the $tealers seem to charge about a $2-4k premium, even though there's no additional warranty or benefit from buying from them.
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Re: Whats Next after K1300s?

Postby Ed F K on Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:33 pm

JHB1984 wrote:my bet is on a K1600S and/or R ... same motor as the K1600GT/L but with bi-turbo and compressor and chasis+body panels all carbon fiber.

but caution ... it could get a bit pricier then the K13 :roll: :wink:

:lol: :mrgreen: :drunken: :eye:


Hey Jo, K16S, yes, but Bi-turbo...? :>)
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Re: Whats Next after K1300s?

Postby JHB1984 on Thu Mar 24, 2011 4:10 am

what ?
too much ?
ok ... but then at least give us DTC, curve light and tempomat
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Re: Whats Next after K1300s?

Postby Ed F K on Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:33 pm

Too much? No, but just not probable...

Come to think of it, a K1600 4 cylinder instead, tuned to scream, might be better...
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Re: Whats Next after K1300s?

Postby Mirage_ZA on Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:57 pm

Give us smoother running, same 1300 engine, less weight, better integration of panniers/top box, perhaps traction control and race ABS and K1300SR (I like to call it like that) would be good for next 5 years at least.
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Re: Whats Next after K1300s?

Postby PaulC on Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:32 pm

That ^^ is what I fairly much expect along with a bit of a workover of the looks so as to emphasise newness, though I doubt we'll lose much in the way of weight due to the cost of engineering weight loss.

Where is the impetus for massive change going to come from while the machine is generally regarded as best in class? I just can't see that wholesale changes such as cramming in the six would be on the agenda.
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Re: Whats Next after K1300s?

Postby SHIVA on Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:50 pm

also, regarding weight, the K1300S is THE lightest hypersport by far. It's nearly 40 pounds lighter than the Kawa ZZR14/ZX14. And also about 30 or so pounds lighter than 'Busa. So there is no weight problem, of course it would be cool if it could be maybe 10 to 20 pounds lighter still, but not needed.

Also, things to keep in mind is that, there's always a new model around the corner, be it a new HDTV with better technology, or faster processor, or a new car model, faster focusing camera or a new bike.

some people never make up their minds because they are always waiting for the next model and lose all that fun time they can have, or all the images they could shoot, or all the movies they can watch on the models that are already being sold.

Bikes are totally the same way. The K1300S has been called the best in class numerous times. If you want a hypersport, meaning a big dog sportbike in the class of 'Busa, there is no better bike than the K1300S. and why lose a whole year of riding to see what 2012 might bring.
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Re: Whats Next after K1300s?

Postby motorbikez on Sat Mar 26, 2011 4:05 am

SHIVA wrote: The K1300S has been called the best in class numerous times. If you want a hypersport, meaning a big dog sportbike in the class of 'Busa, there is no better bike than the K1300S. and why lose a whole year of riding to see what 2012 might bring.


Just buy one you won't regret it,something else to consider the 2nd hand price of a K1300S may be more next year due to Obama's micky mouse money printing.
He's devaluing the American dollar at a rate of Knots,which will make imports more expensive for American consumers with the knock on effect of making 2nd hand bikes dearer.
If Germany leaves the euro this year( only a possibility not a certainty) as manufacturers like a weak euro it will definately be dearer.
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Re: Whats Next after K1300s?

Postby throttlemeister on Sat Mar 26, 2011 4:34 am

motorbikez wrote:
SHIVA wrote:If Germany leaves the euro this year( only a possibility not a certainty) as manufacturers like a weak euro it will definately be dearer.

LOL

The likelihood of the UK joining the Euro is far greater than Germany leaving it.
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Re: Whats Next after K1300s?

Postby Mirage_ZA on Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:21 pm

By lowering weight, implementing technologies from K1600 (magnesium for instance) K1300 would completely transform in so many ways - it would brake, accelerate and turn better. For those who think that 20kg is not a big deal - do yourself a favour and ride 1150 and 1200 GS - it's like riding a different bike. Not sure about Busa but stock ZX1400 is lighter than the KS.
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Re: Whats Next after K1300s?

Postby Graemsay on Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:34 pm

There are rumours doing the rounds that a watercooled Boxer is on its way in 2012 or 2013, and this thread on ADV Rider has a few shots of what's claimed to be the engine.

The discussion there is of a shorter, dry-sumped engine, with a higher rev limit and power than the existing twin-cam.

So I'm wondering if the four cylinder Ks might be killed off. BMW could then build a K1600S, and possibly an R, which would be slightly heavier and more powerful than the current range. Plus an R1300S (or whatever the monicker is) and R that are somewhat lighter and a little bit less powerful.

If there is a K1400, or whatever, then I'd expect to see incremental improvements on fuel economy (BMW are about the only bike manufacturer who's concerned with this), and gadgets like the adaptive headlight and colour TFT display will be used. The finish on the new 2011 models is better than in previous years. Compare a K1600GT to a K1300GT and the plastics are generally stiffer (much less of that nasty flexing).
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